They make a strong case that it was mismanagement and also a leaky sewage pipe above the neonatal ward that contributed to a unhealthy and dangerous environment especially for premature babies. Plus of course no one even considers possibility that wireless transmitting towers, ie cell towers, were nearly directly above the neonatal ward as well which would further aggravate health problems, plus the medical staffing were jabbing preemies with vaccines.
I think the problem with 'stable' which bamboozled the jury is that doctors only have 3 words ... Critical, Stable, or Fair so they may not have realised what it meant to everyone else.
Having myself been wrongly convicted, but later a Judicial Review half sorted that out, but not completely! And in my case and my friends, Police corruption being involved in order to silence us as whistleblowers, (at the time I was doing quite a bit of TV) we were labelled Paedophiles! Done by planting files on my friends computer, I handed a defence document to a journalist and was promptly arrested! I am 100% sure we are seeing a miscarriage of justice in the Letby case, but I think our corrupt system will never admit this and she will be in prison for donkeys years yet. Proving a negative in court, would take experts , on every case she was charged with. A hard one for the best in the business which is what she now needs, and costly to her.
Is there anything we can do to help Lucy Letby in this phase ? Is it over now that the appeal is denied ?
So many question ! E.g. why were doctors who could possibly exonerate her not called, during this trial about baby K ?
A retired Irish MD explain, based on the clinical notes, that other factors could have caused the deaths of the babies. But he goes by a pen-name - Jamie Egan - and I have not seen the real him come forward to help. Why not ?
How is it possible that so many experts, statisticians, doctors, neonatologists, etc. have declared that Lucy's trial was not fair and still she had/has shitty representation ? Is it because of money ? Is it because people are afraid to get witch-hunted too if they defend her ?
The Birmingham Six were six Irishmen who were each sentenced to life imprisonment in 1975 following their false convictions for the 1974 Birmingham pub bombings. Their convictions were declared unsafe and unsatisfactory and quashed by the Court of Appeal on 14 March 1991. The six men were later awarded financial compensation ranging from £840,000 to £1.2 million.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_George_Peter_Lee On 20 January 1981, Lee pleaded not guilty at Leeds Crown Court to 26 counts of murder, but guilty to 26 counts of manslaughter on the grounds of diminished responsibility, and to 11 counts of arson.[19] Prosecutors accepted the guilty pleas, saying that it was not in the public interest to incur the expense of a trial.[7]
He had also confessed to an additional ten nonfatal fires, set in locations including shops and warehouses; he was not charged for those incidents.[1]
Lee was initially taken to Park Lane Special Hospital in Liverpool and was later transferred to Rampton Secure Hospital. Although he had been convicted of more deaths than any previous killer in British history, Lee received relatively little national publicity, possibly because he was convicted of manslaughter rather than murder, and also because the trial of Peter Sutcliffe, which was a much more high-profile case, was ongoing at the same time.[6]
In 1983, a public inquiry concluded that the fire at the Wensley Lodge was accidental and that Lee was not responsible for it or the deaths of the eleven residents. Senior fire investigation officers supported the inquiry's conclusions. Lee's eleven relevant manslaughter convictions were later duly quashed on appeal.[6][20] Tredget has recanted his confessions, consistently claiming his innocence since the late 1980s.[21]
A new appeal was launched in 2021 following a referral from the Criminal Cases Review Commission, arguing due to his physical disabilities he could not have committed the crimes and had falsely confessed due to the state of his mental health.[22][9] The Court of Appeal ruled in 2022 that Tredget could not have been responsible for two fires, acquitting him of two counts of arson and three of manslaughter; the remaining convictions were upheld.[9][21][1]
Aftermath
Sagar, the detective in charge of Lee's case, later launched a libel action against The Sunday Times after it published articles suggesting Lee's statements had not been entirely voluntary. The judge at Lee's 1983 appeal stated that he was confident that Lee's statements were "freely given"[20] and the paper later withdrew the allegations and offered an apology, with the case finally settling out of court in 1987.[23] Sagar, who had retired and was made an MBE, had stated that he hoped Lee will one day be deemed fit and safe enough to be freed. Sagar died in March 2010.
"Man who spent 32 years in prison for murders he didn't commit gets awarded $13 million
Victor Rosario went to prison for arson and murder when he was 24 years old, but has now been released and paid $13 million
Tom Wood
A man who spent 32 years in prison for a crime he didn’t commit has been awarded $13 million in compensation.
Victor Rosario was arrested at the age of 24 back in 1982 before being convicted of arson and murder for a fire that resulted in the deaths of eight people, including five children in Lowell, Massachusetts.
He made a confession at the time, but his conviction was eventually overturned in 2014 when the appeals court came to suspect that they had not been voluntary.
He was released from prison after that, before the district attorney decided that the case would not be brought to another trial.
Cameron Todd Willingham was executed in Texas in 2004 for allegedly setting a fire that killed his three young daughters 13 years earlier. He always claimed his innocence, and the arson investigation used to convict him was questioned by leading experts before Willingham was executed.
Since 2004, further evidence in the case has led to the inescapable conclusion that Willingham did not set the fire for which he was executed. The Texas Forensic Science Commission issued its report on the convictions of Cameron Todd Willingham on April 15, 2011 recommending more education and training for fire investigators (...).
One part of the proof was the "satanic tendencies" of Mr. Willingham.
The prosecution cited such evidence in asserting that Willingham fit the profile of a sociopath, and brought forth two medical experts to confirm the theory. Neither had met Willingham. One of them was Tim Gregory, a psychologist with a master’s degree in marriage and family issues, who had previously gone goose hunting with Jackson - the prosecutor in the case - and had not published any research in the field of sociopathic behavior. His practice was devoted to family counselling.
At one point, Jackson showed Gregory Exhibit No. 60—a photograph of an Iron Maiden poster that had hung in Willingham’s house—and asked the psychologist to interpret it. “This one is a picture of a skull, with a fist being punched through the skull,” Gregory said; the image displayed “violence” and “death.” Gregory looked at photographs of other music posters owned by Willingham. “There’s a hooded skull, with wings and a hatchet,” Gregory continued. “And all of these are in fire, depicting—it reminds me of something like Hell. And there’s a picture—a Led Zeppelin picture of a falling angel. . . . I see there’s an association many times with cultive-type of activities. A focus on death, dying. Many times individuals that have a lot of this type of art have interest in satanic-type activities.”
I cannot help see similarities, e.g. a consultant hired not based on pertinent expertise but on connections. Interpreting items confiscated in the house as proving bad intent. Etc.
Hello, have you looked at this substack?
They make a strong case that it was mismanagement and also a leaky sewage pipe above the neonatal ward that contributed to a unhealthy and dangerous environment especially for premature babies. Plus of course no one even considers possibility that wireless transmitting towers, ie cell towers, were nearly directly above the neonatal ward as well which would further aggravate health problems, plus the medical staffing were jabbing preemies with vaccines.
https://open.substack.com/pub/lawhealthandtech/p/letby-appeal-denied
Also have you seen this the may 20th 2024 issue of the new yorker "Did a Neonatal Nurse Kill" ? Newyorker.com p34-49.
And poor Lucy was not allowed to testify and she appears to have a gag order as well.
I think she became the poster scapegoat for everything wrong with the NHS.
When was Lucy not allowed to testify ? I read she testified for days.
Dear Mr Elston, are more episodes of your excellent podcast expected? The 20 episodes available are astonishing in their detail and analysis.
I think the problem with 'stable' which bamboozled the jury is that doctors only have 3 words ... Critical, Stable, or Fair so they may not have realised what it meant to everyone else.
Having myself been wrongly convicted, but later a Judicial Review half sorted that out, but not completely! And in my case and my friends, Police corruption being involved in order to silence us as whistleblowers, (at the time I was doing quite a bit of TV) we were labelled Paedophiles! Done by planting files on my friends computer, I handed a defence document to a journalist and was promptly arrested! I am 100% sure we are seeing a miscarriage of justice in the Letby case, but I think our corrupt system will never admit this and she will be in prison for donkeys years yet. Proving a negative in court, would take experts , on every case she was charged with. A hard one for the best in the business which is what she now needs, and costly to her.
Is there anything we can do to help Lucy Letby in this phase ? Is it over now that the appeal is denied ?
So many question ! E.g. why were doctors who could possibly exonerate her not called, during this trial about baby K ?
A retired Irish MD explain, based on the clinical notes, that other factors could have caused the deaths of the babies. But he goes by a pen-name - Jamie Egan - and I have not seen the real him come forward to help. Why not ?
https://jameganx.notepin.co
How is it possible that so many experts, statisticians, doctors, neonatologists, etc. have declared that Lucy's trial was not fair and still she had/has shitty representation ? Is it because of money ? Is it because people are afraid to get witch-hunted too if they defend her ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birmingham_Six
The Birmingham Six were six Irishmen who were each sentenced to life imprisonment in 1975 following their false convictions for the 1974 Birmingham pub bombings. Their convictions were declared unsafe and unsatisfactory and quashed by the Court of Appeal on 14 March 1991. The six men were later awarded financial compensation ranging from £840,000 to £1.2 million.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_George_Peter_Lee On 20 January 1981, Lee pleaded not guilty at Leeds Crown Court to 26 counts of murder, but guilty to 26 counts of manslaughter on the grounds of diminished responsibility, and to 11 counts of arson.[19] Prosecutors accepted the guilty pleas, saying that it was not in the public interest to incur the expense of a trial.[7]
He had also confessed to an additional ten nonfatal fires, set in locations including shops and warehouses; he was not charged for those incidents.[1]
Lee was initially taken to Park Lane Special Hospital in Liverpool and was later transferred to Rampton Secure Hospital. Although he had been convicted of more deaths than any previous killer in British history, Lee received relatively little national publicity, possibly because he was convicted of manslaughter rather than murder, and also because the trial of Peter Sutcliffe, which was a much more high-profile case, was ongoing at the same time.[6]
In 1983, a public inquiry concluded that the fire at the Wensley Lodge was accidental and that Lee was not responsible for it or the deaths of the eleven residents. Senior fire investigation officers supported the inquiry's conclusions. Lee's eleven relevant manslaughter convictions were later duly quashed on appeal.[6][20] Tredget has recanted his confessions, consistently claiming his innocence since the late 1980s.[21]
A new appeal was launched in 2021 following a referral from the Criminal Cases Review Commission, arguing due to his physical disabilities he could not have committed the crimes and had falsely confessed due to the state of his mental health.[22][9] The Court of Appeal ruled in 2022 that Tredget could not have been responsible for two fires, acquitting him of two counts of arson and three of manslaughter; the remaining convictions were upheld.[9][21][1]
Aftermath
Sagar, the detective in charge of Lee's case, later launched a libel action against The Sunday Times after it published articles suggesting Lee's statements had not been entirely voluntary. The judge at Lee's 1983 appeal stated that he was confident that Lee's statements were "freely given"[20] and the paper later withdrew the allegations and offered an apology, with the case finally settling out of court in 1987.[23] Sagar, who had retired and was made an MBE, had stated that he hoped Lee will one day be deemed fit and safe enough to be freed. Sagar died in March 2010.
"Man who spent 32 years in prison for murders he didn't commit gets awarded $13 million
Victor Rosario went to prison for arson and murder when he was 24 years old, but has now been released and paid $13 million
Tom Wood
A man who spent 32 years in prison for a crime he didn’t commit has been awarded $13 million in compensation.
Victor Rosario was arrested at the age of 24 back in 1982 before being convicted of arson and murder for a fire that resulted in the deaths of eight people, including five children in Lowell, Massachusetts.
He made a confession at the time, but his conviction was eventually overturned in 2014 when the appeals court came to suspect that they had not been voluntary.
He was released from prison after that, before the district attorney decided that the case would not be brought to another trial.
Cameron Todd Willingham was executed in Texas in 2004 for allegedly setting a fire that killed his three young daughters 13 years earlier. He always claimed his innocence, and the arson investigation used to convict him was questioned by leading experts before Willingham was executed.
Since 2004, further evidence in the case has led to the inescapable conclusion that Willingham did not set the fire for which he was executed. The Texas Forensic Science Commission issued its report on the convictions of Cameron Todd Willingham on April 15, 2011 recommending more education and training for fire investigators (...).
One part of the proof was the "satanic tendencies" of Mr. Willingham.
The prosecution cited such evidence in asserting that Willingham fit the profile of a sociopath, and brought forth two medical experts to confirm the theory. Neither had met Willingham. One of them was Tim Gregory, a psychologist with a master’s degree in marriage and family issues, who had previously gone goose hunting with Jackson - the prosecutor in the case - and had not published any research in the field of sociopathic behavior. His practice was devoted to family counselling.
At one point, Jackson showed Gregory Exhibit No. 60—a photograph of an Iron Maiden poster that had hung in Willingham’s house—and asked the psychologist to interpret it. “This one is a picture of a skull, with a fist being punched through the skull,” Gregory said; the image displayed “violence” and “death.” Gregory looked at photographs of other music posters owned by Willingham. “There’s a hooded skull, with wings and a hatchet,” Gregory continued. “And all of these are in fire, depicting—it reminds me of something like Hell. And there’s a picture—a Led Zeppelin picture of a falling angel. . . . I see there’s an association many times with cultive-type of activities. A focus on death, dying. Many times individuals that have a lot of this type of art have interest in satanic-type activities.”
I cannot help see similarities, e.g. a consultant hired not based on pertinent expertise but on connections. Interpreting items confiscated in the house as proving bad intent. Etc.
It's not just you - there is definitely a serious problem!
I have a question and if someone knows, please answer !
Dr. Evans stated that he looked "blindly" at the clinical notes.
- Were all of these entered into a computer system by nurses and doctors ?
- Or did he only look at notes entered by nurses ?
- Was there a format that had to be followed to enter the information ?
- Or was all/part of the clinical notes done by handwriting and presented in this form ?
If one or more of you answer, my thanks beforehand !
Dear Mr. Elston. Your ChimpInvestor link re. this case is not working anymore !
Did you migrate the information to a new web address ?
Sorry, yes. See mephitis.co
Thank you !